UY #79--Gen Dies!

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miyamoto musashi wrote:whats in a wonder ball?
....a Thunderdome? :confused:
Bale as Batman in 2005

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some chocolate candy ball filled with toys or razorblades or something
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I will be crushed if Gen dies, Stan.

I'm so glad he doesn't die in the comic, it was just a promotion.

When I was a kid I almot cried and was very upset when they killed Robin in the Batman comics.
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batman isnt even a superhero, hes just some rich guy with a belt.
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miyamoto musashi wrote:batman isnt even a superhero, hes just some rich guy with a belt.
Correct. Not a superhero in the sense that he does not possess natural superpowers.

Although not perceivably, Batman is in fact a hero to the people. His physically trained abilities and superb detective skills are what place him in league with actual super heroes. Of course, being inherently wealthy helps too.
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a hero maybe, but not super, and if you think about it he'd get smitten by any superhero.

and on that subject, superman is lame, i mean he can do everything. fly, lazer eyes, x-ray vision, freeze breath, super speed, and super strength.
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4NT is right.
In my oppinion, Batman is even than the rest of the superheroes. That's because he doesn't have the "natural" abilities of a superhero, the comic character had to work hard to obtain his position, while the rest of the superheroes, with all their powers, didn't have to do a thing to become "super".
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miyamoto musashi wrote:a hero maybe, but not super, and if you think about it he'd get smitten by any superhero.

and on that subject, superman is lame, i mean he can do everything. fly, lazer eyes, x-ray vision, freeze breath, super speed, and super strength.
At first, Superman could only run fast, jump high and was strong. That's it. Over time, the writers gave him more stuff when they wrote themselves into a corner and didn't have a power to get out of it.
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Sebastian wrote:4NT is right.
In my oppinion, Batman is even than the rest of the superheroes. That's because he doesn't have the "natural" abilities of a superhero, the comic character had to work hard to obtain his position, while the rest of the superheroes, with all their powers, didn't have to do a thing to become "super".
Green Arrow, Daredevil, Captain America, The Punisher, all those guys had to work hard. Granted, all but Green Arrow is Marvel...
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exactly, the writers could make anything up, beacuse he was "born that way" therefore superman is lame.
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miyamoto musashi wrote:exactly, the writers could make anything up, beacuse he was "born that way" therefore superman is lame.
Character development in a literal sense is most likely attributed to timing. Although not a consistent observation, it would seem that most "Superheroes", that is individuals possessing natural super abilities came to light through the 30's, 40's and 50's.

In the Marvel comics birth of 1961, we see more "guy next door" characters who were changed later in life.

There is allot of symbolism in comics, representing the era they were created. Having said that most media whether comics, magazines, newspapers, movies, T.V., etc is always representative of the world around it.

It is widely understood that Godzilla is a representation of the nuclear blast ending Japans involvement in WWII.
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Batman actually does have a superpower, but it's subtle:
After an accidental encounter with a back-alley mugger, little Bruce Wayne is endowed with the power of SUPER-INSANITY! I love Batman, but he's clearly as nuts as The Joker-- just less GENERALLY dangerous to be around. I've only got a BA in psych, so I'm not going to try any diagnosis, but if you look at the symptoms (fixed ideas, iconic fetishes, loner, undeveloped multiple personalities, violent) there's something pretty wrong there.

So, Batman is less a "born with eerie powers" guy DC usually put forth, and more a "broken but useful" guy Marvel preferred.

BTW, has anyone noticed that a lot of the silver-age Legion of Super Heros crowd were only super because they left their home planet? Total shmoes at home (EVERYONE on Durla can change shape, bid deal "Chameleon Lad"!), but notable when they run away from home. Interesting message for the early 1960's, that....
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are you going for a masters, or phd?
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takematsu wrote:Batman actually does have a superpower, but it's subtle: After an accidental encounter with a back-alley mugger, little Bruce Wayne is endowed with the power of SUPER-INSANITY! I love Batman, but he's clearly as nuts as The Joker-- just less GENERALLY dangerous to be around.
Hehe, how true. It would seem that his neurosis would be what distinguishes him from Bruce Wayne and Batman.
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Already got the Ph.D in Mediaeval Metaphysics from Miskatonic University :wink: Comicthinkology is just a hobby.
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