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Same seller who broke the Albedo NR record trying to do the same with NR 1... this one is 9.2 but LOOKS 9.8, so maybe it will sell for more!! LOL

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... PcY_BID_IT

Hey I just realized this guy's trying to pass off a 2nd Print (light red) as a 1st Print (dark red) Albedo NR 1. Looks like CGC didn't catch the little box at the bottom of the inside front cover, which states "Cover revised and reprinted Sept 1984".

Yep, that is the light red cover, all right. The dark red one is easily recognized as being different.

If memory serves me, there were 500 dark red covers and 1500 light red covers published.

Todd Shogun wrote:Hey I just realized this guy's trying to pass off a 2nd Print (light red) as a 1st Print (dark red) Albedo NR 1. Looks like CGC didn't catch the little box at the bottom of the inside front cover, which states "Cover revised and reprinted Sept 1984".

He even goes as far to answer someone's question on 11/24:

<i>Hi there. Just to clarify the Albedo #1 situation (since the Overstreet guide is on some other planet): The first printing of #1 is dated June, 1984. The second printing of #1 is dated September, 1984. The CGC census confirms this. <b>This is definitely a first pressing!</b> All the best, and good luck bidding! m i k e</i>

http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl ... uestion_VI

Maybe he doesn't know it's a 2nd print, but is ignorance an excuse to mislead collectors/fans/spectators?

Another thought: CGC <i><b>AND</b></i> eBay are co-contributors to the inflated modern age comic prices. CGC wouldn't be as crazy successful (for sellers) without eBay.

Good work, Steve. Keep on pushing for correct grading / labeling.

Peace,

maka

I never really thought of the bright red cover as a 2nd printing before, since both printings were done long before Albedo came close to hitting anything resembling the "main stream". Maybe that's why Overstreet doesn't differentiate. TMNT #1 2nd printing, for example, was produced to meet the demand for the comic after it gained national attention. People bought it at cover price because they could no longer own the original. Bright red Albedo #1 wasn't produced to meet the same kind of need. It wasn't treated any differently than the first printing when it was originally sold.

Just my thoughts.

Either way, this is misleading, and is further proof that neither Overstreet nor (gasp!) CGC are perfect.

shaxper wrote:I never really thought of the bright red cover as a 2nd printing before, since both printings were done long before Albedo came close to hitting anything resembling the "main stream". Maybe that's why Overstreet doesn't differentiate.

Actually, Overstreet does differentiate between "dark red (low print run ~$45 for NM/9.2) and "bright red (low print run ~ $35 at NM/9.2)" So this seller is carefully using the word "First <b>Pressing</b>" vs. "First Printing."

To me that is dishonest, regardless if it is technically or not. The fact that CGC doesn't/didn't document it as such is an error IMO.

Peace,

maka

This is really a situation where the seller is correct and incorrect. From what Steve Gallaci had told me, there was only one printing of Albedo #1, but two printings of the cover. Steve had enough money to print the interiors of Albedo #1, but only 500 covers (the dark red one). When those sold, he used the money to print the other 1500 covers.

I don't know if this would qualify as a second printing or not. I'll leave that to the "experts" and collectors. Maybe it's just a variant cover.

I agree with Stan, in fact I think I remember reading something similar in one of Steve's editorials in Albedo. However, in today's collectibles society, the light red NR 1 would constitute a 2nd printing/pressing/issuing/whatever since it is dated Sept 84 and the dark red NR 1 is not. Even if the insides were originally printed at the time the dark red's insides were printed, and it was just the covers that were re-printed...it's still a reprint. The real problem here is the seller acknowledges the existance of a 2nd printing in Sept 84: "Hi there. Just to clarify the Albedo #1 situation (since the Overstreet guide is on some other planet): The first printing of #1 is dated June, 1984. The second printing of #1 is dated September, 1984. The CGC census confirms this. This is definitely a first pressing! All the best, and good luck bidding! m i k e" Heck he even acknowledges the Overstreet problem. The big problem is the "6/84" on the slab itself...big mistake by CGC and woe to the buyer....

Todd Shogun wrote:
The big problem is the "6/84" on the slab itself...big mistake by CGC and woe to the buyer....

You're right. I didn't even notice the date on the CGC case. This is at best a mistake, and at worst an out and out deception.