Anyone read "Shogun" by James Clavell?

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Anyone read "Shogun" by James Clavell?

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Just grabbed a copy of "Shogun" by James Clavell from a second-hand book shop for 50c. Looks to be a pretty heavy book, the kind that would take me a month or two to finish. I read all the time but I'm not all that fast at it.

Anyone else read it? What did you think?
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Approximately 1100 pages of good, and I really enjoyed it. I read it about a year or so after I started reading Usagi, so I was definitely into the setting and time period, but was ignorant of all the things that die-hard Japanese historical purists were criticising it for. I re-read it again a bout a year and a half ago and still enjoyed it.

I remember watching some of the segments of the mini-series on television when I was a teenager (dating myself) but missed to much of it to appreciate the overall story back then. I re-watched it after having read the book, which made a big differance.

If you get a chance, check out some of the books about the real person that Blackthorne was modelled upon.

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I have read it and enjoyed it as well. If you like that, check out Eiji Yoshikawa's books.
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Post by Bryan Stone »

Sorry to dredge up an old thread but I'd like to recommend Takashi Matsuoka's amazing Cloud of Sparrows and it's sequel Autumn Bridge. Two great samurai books!
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I read it some years ago when someone gifted me a used paperback version.
It is fun to read, but I agree with the statements of: just so long as you don't buy into it as completely historically accurate.
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And the other two books mentioned are also good.
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Shogun (the TV mini-series) is what got me started in the whole Feudal Japan interest, and eventually to my collecting UY. In high school I finally picked up the James Clavell book and couldn't put it down. Really opened my eyes into Japanese history. One of my fave books of all time.
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Shogun is one of my fav books, by far. James Clavell's Asian Saga is one of the best series in modern popular fiction, as far as I'm concerned.

However, it is true that it isn't exactly historically accurate. However, at the same time it does something that alot of novels about Japan need to do.

It emphasizes the fact that mideval Japan was not an ideal place to live in. We would like to think that it was some kind of ideal world, filled with just rulers, honorable warriors, and beautiful maidens.

However, the sad truth is that it was a violent, bloody world. The caste system was really hard on alot of people. Furthermore, the Shogunate was a cruel, oppressive regieme that held the people under an ironfisted rule, and demanded absolute and upmost loyalty to the point of total submission.

It DID, however, humanize the people of that time period, even if it was just fiction.

Also, I encourage everyone to read up on the man that Blackthorne was based on.....A British navigator named William Adams, who was very fond of the Japanese and its people, even though he ended up there in rather unpleasant circumstances (he was shipwrecked on the island and more or less held prisoner there for the rest of his life). He also was the first foreigner to ever hold the title of Samurai (the Shogun apparently liked the guy a good deal).
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Bryan Stone wrote:Sorry to dredge up an old thread but I'd like to recommend Takashi Matsuoka's amazing Cloud of Sparrows and it's sequel Autumn Bridge. Two great samurai books!
I enjoyed those as well. Moreso than Shogun, actually.
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Shogun is amazing...at the bottom...Cloud of Sparrows is real good. Autumn Bridge I haven't read yet. I'll have to take a look.

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I read Shogun about once every two years, it's a great book... I never got into the rest of Clavell's stuff though I'm not sure why.

Yoshikawa's stuff is incredible, Taiko is way way up on my personal list of books to read/recommend.

Not quite samurai, but this past summer I read the Chinese epic "Three Kingdoms" and that was amazing.
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Post by Lady Keiko_ronin Usagi »

It took me a whole year to read Shogun... but I did enjoy it.
It really makes me wanna see the three part tv series now.
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