Takashi Miike's 13 ASSASSINS

Jet_Jaguar · Post by **Jet_Jaguar** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:05 -0700

Anyone else here looking forward to this movie? I keep hearing good things about it.

13 Assassins Trailer 2011 HD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-IzbkXo7bo

SHIZEN · Post by **SHIZEN** » Sun May 01, 2011 2:07 -0700

wow, thanks for posting this, must see.

Post by **Steve Hubbell** » Sun May 01, 2011 10:34 -0700

Been waiting for this for a while now, seems the only good samurai films getting made lately are remakes.

http://wildgrounds.com/index.php/2011/0 ... of-remake/

Jet_Jaguar · Post by **Jet_Jaguar** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 16:17 -0700

This movie just got added to Netflix Instant. Just thought I'd mention that in case anyone wanted to watch it that way.

PJaensch · Post by **PJaensch** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 17:59 -0700

Jet_Jaguar wrote:This movie just got added to Netflix Instant. Just thought I'd mention that in case anyone wanted to watch it that way.

Yeah, it's a great movie. Was exciting to see it on Netflix fairly quickly too.

Stan Sakai · Post by **Stan Sakai** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 13:23 -0700

It's a terrific movie. That battle in the village is amazing. I have not seen the original in quite awhile. A dealer gave me a copy of it in San Diego. I've got to see it when I return, just to compare the two.

maichan · Post by **maichan** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 15:01 -0700

I am waiting to watch it. I bought a copy of the original version from the DVD store located at Mitsuwa Costa Mesa, but it wouldn't play on my machine

...so I'm waiting for them to get another copy. I also have the international version on order through Amazon.

PJaensch · Post by **PJaensch** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 17:41 -0700

I found myself wondering whether the bandit they meet in the forest, who seems remarkably unscathed again at the battle's end was supposed to be revealed thereby as something supernatural. Anyone understand what we were intended to take from that? because I figured the knife to the throat he took earlier was pretty fatal (and would at least have left a mark)

Jet_Jaguar · Post by **Jet_Jaguar** » Sat Sep 03, 2011 18:31 -0700

PJaensch wrote:I found myself wondering whether the bandit they meet in the forest, who seems remarkably unscathed again at the battle's end was supposed to be revealed thereby as something supernatural. Anyone understand what we were intended to take from that? because I figured the knife to the throat he took earlier was pretty fatal (and would at least have left a mark)

Didn't know quite what to make of that. It kind of reminded me a little bit of Voltaire's Candide where there are a few places where people are apparently killed and then miraculously come back to life.

I watched the movie last night. Thought it was pretty good for the most part, the big climactic battle was pretty amazing. Thought the buildup to it was a little slow though, the movie might have benefited a little from having about 20-25 minutes cut (but I tend to think that about most movies).

I'll have to check out the original version sometime. I didn't know that it was a remake.

maichan · Post by **maichan** » Sat Sep 03, 2011 22:32 -0700

I also watched the movie last night. As it started out, I thought I would be watching the uncut version because the DVD box said it was 141 minutes. However the movie ended at 120+ minutes which told me it was the cut version. Needless to say I wasn't too happy with the DVD so I returned it

.... I will continue to search for the uncut version. In the meantime I still have a copy of the cut version coming from Amazon.

PJaensch wrote:I found myself wondering whether the bandit they meet in the forest, who seems remarkably unscathed again at the battle's end was supposed to be revealed thereby as something supernatural. Anyone understand what we were intended to take from that? because I figured the knife to the throat he took earlier was pretty fatal (and would at least have left a mark)

While I was reading up on various internet sites, I read that Kiga was possibly Yōkai. There is supposed to be a scene or two in the uncut version that is a flashback or dream about Kiga and Upashi that eludes to them being mountain spirits... or so Wikipedia says.

Jet_Jaguar · Post by **Jet_Jaguar** » Sun Sep 04, 2011 17:41 -0700

The version of the movie that I watched on Netflix Instant was about 120 minutes. I didn't know that was a cut version.

If there was a scene that explains why that one guy apparently comes back to life after being killed, cutting that seems like kind of a stupid decision.

maichan · Post by **maichan** » Sun Sep 04, 2011 23:43 -0700

Since I haven't seen the uncut version, I can't personally answer that.
But according to the Wiki entry, it sounds like there are many small cuts from the original Japanese version. One scene does include something to do with Kiga, but from what Wiki says, it is more of an indirect hint rather than a real explanation, as to who or what he is. Here is a quote from the Wiki page:

Throughout the film, it is hinted that Kiga is not a human, as the woman he talks about, Upashi, is seen in a flashback eating raw meat by a pond, blood is shown trickling down her legs; and this may be due to her consumption of her unborn fetus, an act a demon would perform. The type of demon Upashi and Kiga are may not be evil, but rather like mountain spirits. Upon meeting him, Kiga says he was abandoned for laying his hands on the boss's woman. This statement has two meanings, as he does not say that he is a bandit, mercenary, or soldier, but someone who hunts animals from mountain to mountain. Therefore, by "the boss", he could mean the head Yōkai—the Yōkai were a type of demon from folklore.