Shogun

Jubei · Post by **Jubei** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 19:31 -0700

A newbie question I'm afraid, but I have to ask.

Has the Shogun of Usagi's time ever been seen in the series?

Even if he hasn't, is this Shogun loosely based on any actual personages as Usagi and Tomoe are?

Thanks.

Anjin-san · Post by **Anjin-san** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 21:47 -0700

As a newbie myself, I can only venture a guess:

As we know, Usagi is based on the real-world ronin and 17th century duelist Miyamoto Musashi. If Usagi's shogun were also to be based on the actual historical personage of the time, that would the first Tokugawa shogun, Ieyasu.

In the real-world history, Miyamoto Musashi and Tokugawa Ieyasu were on opposing sides at the Battle of Sekigahara. Tokugawa won and became shogun, leaving Miyamoto a ronin. If the same or similar events and relationships carry over into Usagi's world, then the shogun would be the direct cause of Usagi's status as ronin and it would be unlikely that Usagi would be happy about that.

However, as to what Sakai-sama has done / will do remains to be seen (at least for me.) For all I know, the shogun in Usagi's world is a platypus named Steve.

Ma-Ku · Post by **Ma-Ku** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 13:45 -0700

I can only assume the Shogun in UY is roughly similar to the Shogun at the time.

Plus the Shogun is mainly known just in name, usually by some people who work for him mention stuff like "Shogun wanted [something]" and thats it. He isnt mentioned that often.

Post by **Todd Shogun** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 16:01 -0700

Stan has mentioned previously that the events in Usagi's universe fit in (albeit fictionally) with historical Japan as it was in the early 1600s. The Shogun at that time was Tokugawa Ieyasu, as pointed out. The Shogun's actual name has never been revealed in Usagi's universe, but Stan has always based the more notable characters on actual people (Miyamoto Usagi = Miyamoto Musashi; Lord Hikiji = Date Masamune, etc). You can bet that both the Shogun and Emperor are based on the actual Shogun and Emperor or that time period.

Jubei · Post by **Jubei** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:38 -0700

Ah, thank you for the information.

But, alas, my knowledge of ancient Japan is limited at the moment (but growing), so who was the Emperor during this time?

Post by **Steve Hubbell** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:29 -0700

Jubei wrote:Ah, thank you for the information.

But, alas, my knowledge of ancient Japan is limited at the moment (but growing), so who was the Emperor during this time?

According to this web-site:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ja ... y+emperors

Goyōzei (1586 - 1611)

Goyōzei-tennō
The 107th Emperor of Japan.

Lived 15 Dec. 1571 to 26 Aug. 1617.

Reigned 7 Nov. 1586 to 27 March 1611.

Abayo...